The issue with an age limit is uh, people lie. Theres no way at all to really enforce it. Just keep to COPPA laws and ban horny talk. Containment zones are just encouragement zones and will devolve very quickly, esp for horny talk.

To be honest in this case I don't agree. Our art channel has been nsfw locked for ages now and barely anyone posts porn or explicit material.

If venting and lifechat were nsfw locked and any sex talk was banned outside of them, I genuinely believe people would just use those channels as intended still with occasional sex life talk. Controversial was made explicitly to contain politics, its a different story than just NSFW locking existing channels.

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king about you all being awful people but ig you're not as bad.

I'll take it.

Still those two are probably worse than any MW member we have rn minus Stir.
If he can't handle a little understandable discourse then he can join the Precure server like I said.

It's not about "which community has the worst members" though. And from what I heard, it wasn't so much the fact that you had the discussion so much as the way it was handled.

Admittedly I wasn't there though and I don't wanna pry into someone else's business, so I'll just leave it at that.

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I want to note that "nsfw talk" isnt the only reason people want an 18+ restriction, simply banning "horny talk" wont solve people feeling uncomfortable having minors around

I want to note that "nsfw talk" isnt the only reason people want an 18+ restriction, simply banning "horny talk" wont solve people feeling uncomfortable having minors around

I'd like to at least hear the reason for the discomfort then besides that from the parties vouching for 18+ because that side has presented literally zero actual arguments or discussion besides "it is uncomfortable" without stating why besides NSFW content and maybe some sex venting or whatever shit which we can lock Zoomer out of channel-wise if we really have to.

No one on that side has even attempted to present an argument while the 16+ side is seemingly actually putting points forward on the whole. Anyway, no one seemed to have an issue when like three 16 year olds joined KG6 so I don't know why this issue is only coming up now.

I don't want to talk to anyone under 18 because I'm not a weirdo

>people lie

Okay so let them lie and then it's not our fault, also we don't look like weirdos who want to welcome 16 year olds to a site where everyone is at least a decade older than that

Seriously what a weird discussion, teenagers have "Tick tock" they don't need to access our strange socially awkward millennial message board

I would unironically rather ban fetish talk than restrict people from joining. I can rattle off probably at least five underage users who joined for KG and no one had an issue with it.

Sure mfan was an established member before he turned 18 but no matter what anyone says, barely any concessions were made for him outside of lowering the age limit to 16 and I would rather not have the potential KG playerbase and future member base in general slashed because you people are incapable of not talking about horny shit

I don't like you re-framing the argument as "should we ban under 18s or should we ban horny". I have no qualms about doing both. You all want to gate NSFW into containment zones? Be my guest. Just ban all horny chat? I literally suggested this a few weeks ago. I don't give a fuck. That's not the issue.

The issue is that these are children and I do not want to associate with children because it's fucking weird. You're an admin at MFGG so you're clearly okay with being around children. I am not. That is the only issue here so please stop pretending otherwise.

okay we can ban minors because you're uncomfortable around them but there's plenty of adults on minus world that no sane person would be comfortable around either. let's get them out too

okay we can ban minors because you're uncomfortable around them but there's plenty of adults on minus world that no sane person would be comfortable around either. let's get them out too

I, too, have no issues in banning Aidan, but I feel it's orthogonal to this issue.

king about you all being awful people but ig you're not as bad.

I'll take it.

Still those two are probably worse than any MW member we have rn minus Stir.
If he can't handle a little understandable discourse then he can join the Precure server like I said.

It's not about "which community has the worst members" though. And from what I heard, it wasn't so much the fact that you had the discussion so much as the way it was handled.

Admittedly I wasn't there though and I don't wanna pry into someone else's business, so I'll just leave it at that.

It was handled about as well as it could've been. No one was expecting SP to invite underage people here.
That falls on the community and more specifically site staff for not having concrete rules regarding this but it is what it is.

As someone who is part of at least 2 communities with people of a wide variety of ages it isn't completely weird. MFGG does an okay job ig but do we want MW to become a literal offshoot of MFGG instead of spiritual? Just a year ago MW members active on MFGG would bitch specifically about MFGG members and how awful they were [mostly because they were young and dumb]. So the switch in attitude is very interesting to witness. Specifically from SP but ig I'm just repeating myself at this point.

Either way I'll still be here most likely.

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I'll take it.

It's not about "which community has the worst members" though. And from what I heard, it wasn't so much the fact that you had the discussion so much as the way it was handled.

Admittedly I wasn't there though and I don't wanna pry into someone else's business, so I'll just leave it at that.

It was handled about as well as it could've been. No one was expecting SP to invite underage people here.
That falls on the community and more specifically site staff for not having concrete rules regarding this but it is what it is.

As someone who is part of at least 2 communities with people of a wide variety of ages it isn't completely weird. MFGG does an okay job ig but do we want MW to become a literal offshoot of MFGG instead of spiritual? Just a year ago MW members active on MFGG would bitch specifically about MFGG members and how awful they were [mostly because they were young and dumb]. So the switch in attitude is very interesting to witness. Specifically from SP but ig I'm just repeating myself at this point.

Either way I'll still be here most likely.

Listen here, when I posted the invite link the norm was that 16+ members were allowed.

It is in no way on me that nobody changed the rule in time to ban 16 year olds and you're just being a dick.

I would post the invite link again.

I will never apologize for posting the link and you should btfo.

The norm was 16+ members are allowed when they were currently no active 16 year olds?
You'd have a better argument for 17+ since Mfan just turned 18 a couple months ago.

Also that is not how you use btfo but I assume you meant gtfo, to which I'd say I will when you do buddy pal.

Edit: This is my last post itt. If I keep posting SP is going to leave for real.

zelma you literal cementhead it was my 19th birthday two months ago, here i was thinking you knew me better than i did

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i'm curious as to what you'd put in the "other" category

do you opt for above +18 to go as far as like +90 only

It was handled about as well as it could've been. No one was expecting SP to invite underage people here.
That falls on the community and more specifically site staff for not having concrete rules regarding this but it is what it is.

As someone who is part of at least 2 communities with people of a wide variety of ages it isn't completely weird. MFGG does an okay job ig but do we want MW to become a literal offshoot of MFGG instead of spiritual? Just a year ago MW members active on MFGG would bitch specifically about MFGG members and how awful they were [mostly because they were young and dumb]. So the switch in attitude is very interesting to witness. Specifically from SP but ig I'm just repeating myself at this point.

Either way I'll still be here most likely.

Listen here, when I posted the invite link the norm was that 16+ members were allowed.

It is in no way on me that nobody changed the rule in time to ban 16 year olds and you're just being a dick.

I would post the invite link again.

I will never apologize for posting the link and you should btfo.

The norm was 16+ members are allowed when they were currently no active 16 year olds?
You'd have a better argument for 17+ since Mfan just turned 18 a couple months ago.

Also that is not how you use btfo but I assume you meant gtfo, to which I'd say I will when you do buddy pal.

Edit: This is my last post itt. If I keep posting SP is going to leave for real.

We changed rules to allow 16+ members but have 18+ content behind spoilers/access restrictions a while back. The Discord admittedly did not change much at all to accommodate for this and I think that the suggestions about marking more channels as NSFW are valid.

From my understanding, you guys wanted an 18+ rule ~3 years ago, but in order to make an exception for a few members you didn't want to remove from MW for being underage, you set it to 16+ with the intent of changing it later. That's not changing the goalposts for those members now, the goalposts have been moved for a few years at this point, and now some people wanna move them back before we need to wait 2 years to have this discussion again. Sooshy joining was just a reminder, MW doesn't have concrete rules about age, and we should address that, civilly.

From my understanding, you guys wanted an 18+ rule ~3 years ago, but in order to make an exception for a few members you didn't want to remove from MW for being underage, you set it to 16+ with the intent of changing it later. That's not changing the goalposts for those members now, the goalposts have been moved for a few years at this point, and now some people wanna move them back before we need to wait 2 years to have this discussion again. Sooshy joining was just a reminder, MW doesn't have concrete rules about age, and we should address that, civilly.

the general idea used to be, MW would be marked as having 18+ content and expect maturity but we didn't scrutinize too much, and then solidified that rule into a 16+ one with 18+ content being determined upon more harshly just shy of a year ago

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We're weirdos except when multiple 16 year olds joined and stayed for kg with no complaints, and no that's not referring to rose or mfan who you guys moved the goal posts for yesterday and said they were already established members so it doesn't count

its important also to note that how i felt about having minors here 3 years ago when i was still in the first half of my 20s is irrelevant to how i feel having minors here Now when im well into the second half of my 20s

theres other communities where im more comfortable with minors because of the tone and environment of those communities, im sure MFGG is one of those places for yall, but the mood i came to mw for (before it turned into a shitfest lately) was one that im not super comfortable sharing with people over a decade younger than me

ok so

give me any objections towards nsfw-locking venting, lifechat, and content on the discord and cracking down harder on people talking about sex life stuff and hard NSFW images outside of there

i don't believe we'd have to get rid of borderline nsfw talk or risque jokes and the like, it's not like that's any more extreme than what any person above even the age of 13 is regularly discussing with their friends or seeing in media anyways

i don't believe we'd have to get rid of borderline nsfw talk or risque jokes and the like, it's not like that's any more extreme than what any person above even the age of 13 is regularly discussing with their friends or seeing in media anyways

put this in the disclaimer

i don't believe we'd have to get rid of borderline nsfw talk or risque jokes and the like, it's not like that's any more extreme than what any person above even the age of 13 is regularly discussing with their friends or seeing in media anyways

Not me I was a saint