I'm legitimately curious to know if Ninty has ever read a single piece of criticism regarding their products. They really seem to just do whatever they feel like.

They could pay some dude minimum wage to patrol fansites and social media outlets for feedback, and they'd be able to actually move products without needing to fall back on the SMB3 formula (which was old a decade ago)

Nobody likes this gimped RPG format they're trying to push, and by that I mean I haven't met a single person who enjoys it. Even when they put effort into the game it just falls flat.

It's like if they tried to simplify the 3D Mario format by making everything linea---OH YEAH THAT'S RIGHT

Nobody likes this gimped RPG format they're trying to push, and by that I mean I haven't met a single person who enjoys it. Even when they put effort into the game it just falls flat.

It's like if they tried to simplify the 3D Mario format by making everything linea---OH YEAH THAT'S RIGHT

the fact that the recent 3D Mario games have such a large amount of fans despite being a huge step back in every way baffles me

>b-but the platforming is good!

It was good in Galaxy too, which had creative levels that usually made sense based on the planet theme, and weren't just platforms hovering over way more interesting backgrounds most of the time.

making every level a resdesign of Bowser In The Dark World is an awful choice

Nobody likes this gimped RPG format they're trying to push, and by that I mean I haven't met a single person who enjoys it. Even when they put effort into the game it just falls flat.

It's like if they tried to simplify the 3D Mario format by making everything linea---OH YEAH THAT'S RIGHT

the fact that the recent 3D Mario games have such a large amount of fans despite being a huge step back in every way baffles me

>b-but the platforming is good!

It was good in Galaxy too, which had creative levels that usually made sense based on the planet theme, and weren't just platforms hovering over way more interesting backgrounds most of the time.

making every level a resdesign of Bowser In The Dark World is an awful choice

3d world is amazing because it's a really good adaptation of the 2d mario experience to 3d and it knows that. 3d land was a failed version of this concept

galaxy 1 and 2 are shit because they're just inferior forms of mario 64's format with what was good about it ripped out

I'm probably the only person alive who even really hates 3D World as much as I do.

To date it's the only Mario game I straight up couldn't even finish because I got so bored.

This post was last modified: Nov 22, 2016 at 8:22 PM by T-man.

But I liked Galaxy 1... :c

I'd say Galaxy 1 is the better of the two, if only due to it's more whimsical, fairytalesque presentation. Galaxy 2 isn't as strong as a standalone package, but it's phenomenal as an expansion.

Galaxy 2 pissed me off because it fooled you into thinking there was a hub world, when in reality it's just a world map with a 100% pointless spaceship thing

And Galaxy 1's hub world sucks because there's nothing to do, but at least SOME of those levels are semi-open and exploration based

Unfortunately the exploration levels were also boring as shit, remember that beach one? Neither do I because it felt like a test level

This post was last modified: Nov 22, 2016 at 9:23 PM by Spritanium.

3D World is a terrific game as a spin-off. In context, as the flagship Mario title for the Wii U, it's an embarrassment. It's bad enough that it took them like 10 years to actually get the "modernized classic Mario" thing right for once, but then they went ahead and tried to pass it off as the best they could do.

Also if the new Mario makes you hold the B button to run, I'm not buying a Switch

This post was last modified: Nov 22, 2016 at 9:33 PM by T-man.

Also if the new Mario makes you hold the B button to run, I'm not buying a Switch

I've never understood the sentiment. It's different, but I don't think it's bad. It makes running more deliberate.

This is the least of Modern 3D Mario's problems.

honestly having a run button in a 3D platformer that uses an analog stick makes movement really non-fluid (3D world being a great example where keeping your momentum up is a pain thanks to no triple jump) so to an extent i agree

honestly having a run button in a 3D platformer that uses an analog stick makes movement really non-fluid (3D world being a great example where keeping your momentum up is a pain thanks to no triple jump) so to an extent i agree

Yeah that makes sense. Momentum based movement is a bit too high level for the infant children Nintendo makes their games for.

honestly having a run button in a 3D platformer that uses an analog stick makes movement really non-fluid (3D world being a great example where keeping your momentum up is a pain thanks to no triple jump) so to an extent i agree

Yeah that makes sense. Momentum based movement is a bit too high level for the infant children Nintendo makes their games for.

the funny thing is most young children barely touch the run button

The entire purpose of an analog stick, in addition to allowing 360 degrees of movement, is that it allows you to control speed/momentum as well. They made a big deal of this in SM64 (sneaking up to piranha plants)

If you make someone hold down a digital button to increase their speed when they're already using an analog stick, well then that's annoying as well as literally pointless.

This post was last modified: Nov 22, 2016 at 9:59 PM by Spritanium.

tbh I feel like Nintendo would have reverted to a D-pad by now if it weren't for third party support, and I'm only half kidding

EDIT: Actually more like 25% kidding

was the gamecube the first console to have analog triggers? either way they haven't had those since and im sorely missing them

I think it was, and it was demonstrated extremely well in a launch title (Luigi's House of Scares) just like the analog stick was. It was a fantastically intuitive addition, now standard on all controllers, and Nintendo dropped it after 1 gen lmao