Killing Game 5
S Tier
A role after my own heart. The USU can give the host a song title, and from this he will generate a Stand with a random power. In Sandler’s case, his Stand, 『Mother Russia』, could spin in a tornado-like manner, causing physical damage and deflecting everything thrown at it. You can also summon your Stand to manipulate a far away object, but it’s limited to the room you’re currently in. True, the power you get is very much luck-based, but I doubt the generator has that many detrimental abilities. But….who am I kidding, I’m biased: having a Stand is fucking fantastic. I don’t even mind the FA where you have to pose and shout your Stand name every night!
Whew, this is a crazy one. The UPK possesses bombs that, despite not killing easy, can instantly KO someone and can also be used for a bomb jump to get to a higher ground. Your knowledge of everything chemical lets you craft any chemical compound you can think of, like explosives, poisons, acids, etc, or you can use this power to upgrade your bombs. This has an insane number of applications, and even better, the FA of touching a shovel is too situational to worry about. what do you mean agastya died from this on night 2
The Ultimate Detective, thankfully not as overpowered as previous versions, can compare bodily fluid samples, although he needs a sample first. You can also have the host incriminate another player once per night, but you can’t choose what the false evidence is. It is a nice change of pace to have a detective role that’s convenient for both investigating and attempting, even if the investigation is somewhat situational. The FA is voting for the wrong player three times, but I feel this can be easily negated by simply not voting most nights, except perhaps on a close tie or a night with few players.
The Ultimate Interrogator can choose one account every investigation and the host will verify its legitimacy. You can also do this to your own account to exonerate yourself. One of the most overpowered roles in the game, considering it can either instantly pin a player that’s already the target of suspicion or make yourself exempt from being a target yourself. The FA, being unable to kill outdoors, isn’t even a problem: just kill indoors.
Ramona Flowers can, once per night, enter a Subspace Highway to travel from one doorway to another, resulting in the best travel role in the game besides the fact that you can’t enter or exit or enter a bedroom and have to travel through the dreams of at least one sleeping player, who might not even notice you anyway. You also carry roller skates for moving around faster and a Subspace Bag, which can hold more items than it can seemingly fit. However, you glow and make your position known whenever you take something out of it, and its trick is revealed if it’s examined. Galaxy brain loophole: just craft a normal bag that looks exactly like it, put it in the magical one, and swap the two interchangeably.
fucking hell there’s too many amazing roles in this game
The Ultimate Lawyer can copypaste an account with no repercussions one time only, and the host will verify this as true. You can also present your attorney’s badge to a player, forcing them to reveal a night action from a previous night they’ve hidden. Finally, you can move one vote against you to another player during a class trial, albeit this came after an incentive. This is insanely helpful for both investigating and getting away with murder, and the Forbidden Action, being required to know where your badge is before the night ends, isn’t even that threatening.
The Ultimate Collaborator knows of the Mastermind’s existence and can ask for their assistance by setting certain things into action, which has a rich variety of applications. Although there’s a chance they might refuse, this decreases if you kill more and more. Also, if an innocent player is lynched for a kill you submitted, they’re listed as guilty regardless. I don’t even need to describe how ridiculous this is.
A Tier]
The UCN comes with a high-frequency katana, which is useful considering he finds it impossible to turn down a fight. Over the course of the game, you become stronger in combat and less likely to be murdered. It even lists the fact that a song from the Metal Gear Rising OST blares out whenever you fight as a downside, can you believe that?
The Ultimate Inventor can build any machine he can put to mind as long as he has the parts, which the host points him towards. It’s another role that thrives on your creativity, but it’s not S Tier due to the FA, where you must have a piece of women's underwear exposed at all times. Come on, that’s just humiliating.
The Ultimate Meteorologist can alter the weather to whatever she wants at the beginning of each night, allowing for all kinds of hijinks. Using rain to obscure evidence, using wind to hinder and possibly even kill other players, etc. But I’m not putting it in S Tier as, to my knowledge, Yohane never used it even once. Bloody shame.
The Ultimate Librarian can read a book related to a certain skill once per night and grow stronger in that skill. Think the Ultimate Carrot-on-a-Stick, except you don’t have to attempt to gain buffs, even if they’re restricted to only what you can realistically learn. Just see for yourself how high the roles primarily based on one’s imagination place on these lists. You can also decipher any code or language, but it’s more for lore stuff than actually being practical.
The Ultimate Amputee has an extremely sharp sword arm hiding under a prosthetic, but a wound made with this has a distinct pattern compared to most other knives. It is useful to have a murder weapon you don’t have to procure and hide somewhere, but I feel like body checks are this role’s worst nightmare. Not to mention the prosthetic arm lacks dexterity, making you less adapt than most other players.
The Ultimate Spy carries a watch that lets him turn invisible, as long as he is standing still, and also starts with an easy to conceal butterfly knife. I think there was some past role that let you be undetectable and walk at the same time, but whatever, it’s still a great ability to have. You can also disguise as another player once per night, but it’s only good for stealth purposes considering it goes away if you attack someone.
The URC can use his natural talent to climb the outside of the building to the roof or, more importantly, any window on the map, allowing for easy stealth or quick travel. The Forbidden Action is using your backpack for anything but the climbing gear you’re given, but I would probably just use a different bag before being shut down by the host.
The Ultimate Saiyan can knock out or even kill people with nothing but his sheer strength, giving you access to normally illegal melee kills that don’t involve going to several rooms and a convoluted setup. You can also become stronger by losing to a stronger opponent or getting away with murder, which you’re going to need with the FA of going three nights without attempting.
The Ultimate Skeptic has the power of role abilities outright failing against him, offensive or defensive. Although this is almost game breaking on its own, you won’t notice when a role is in effect, which could lead to headaches with something like the Ultimate Illusionist or Ultimate Detective. Your mileage may vary on this role much more than others. As an FA, you can’t KO another player, which admittedly does kind of suck.
The Ultimate Grandmother is immune to attempts whenever she’s baking. Like the Ultimate Napper below, it’s more limited than other kill immunity roles before it, but unlike the Ultimate Napper, at least you don’t waste a night while it’s activated. You can also distract others with your baked goods, similar to JonTron’s role from 4.5. As a downside, you can’t poison anything you bake, and you’re rather slow and weak.
B Tier
The Ultimate Athlete can throw or catch any spherical object perfectly, which….isn’t really useful at all, damn. At least you start with a baseball bat and above-average speed and strength. The FA requires you to vigorously jerk off every nigh-FOR FUCK’S SAKE I THOUGHT I WAS DONE WITH THIS SHIT AFTER KG3
The Ultimate Illusionist can change the appearance of any object, so long as it shares a physical resemblance. This does have its uses, like with hiding blood on your clothes or something, but it’s limited by the fact that it only works with something in your hands, on your body, or very close to you. You also can’t use it on something you’ve killed with without dying.
The Ultimate Miner can use her pickaxe and shovel to dig tunnels to other rooms or a drop-down hole to a lower floor. Like another traveling role, the Ultimate Rock Climber, but infinitely more obvious, but at least it’s not relegated to only rooms with windows. You’re also easily distracted by gold objects, which is too situational to matter, and at least the FA of not going to bed while dirty is easy to prevent.
The Ultimate Beachcomber can use his metal detector to locate one metal object of his choosing per night. However, you still have to dig it up, and the metal detector can’t be used as a weapon. It’s a tossup between this and A Tier, because while this grants you access to a wide variety of items, the complicated process required for getting them makes it fairly obvious a metal object involved in a murder is you.
This role’s best described as a Frankenstein of past role traits but significantly nerfed. The Ultimate Napper can use sleeping pills on herself to make them immune to murder, just like the Ultimate Iron Flesh. or the Werewolf, but you can’t do anything for the rest of the night in that state. By giving someone else a pill, you can knock them out and make them vulnerable, similar to the Ultimate Darth Maul or the Ultimate Gorgon, but you only have three pills to start with and have to wait two nights for an extra if you run out. It’s also limited by the fact that you can’t trip others’ FAs with this.
The Ultimate Wanderer can start and end his night in any room in any room of his choosing. Not much practicality, if I have to be honest, it’s only good for getting to a particular room or ending your night faster. You can also hear anything going on in a room you’re asleep in, but your FA has you die when you’re asleep in a room with a corpse, so...what’s the point?
C Tier
The Ultimate Editor can insert an action into someone’s account every night, and their account will tell them they did it, even though it didn’t really happen. It’s one thing if the action actually does takes place, but it’s simple for the player to reason “What the hell, I didn’t submit this” and blow it off.
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Ah, I remember my role fondly. If only for giving me an excuse to drown myself in booze, wine refineries are shockingly scarce in the Underworld. All the dead souls are too busy being whipped with blazing barbed wire to ferment grapes, unfortunately.
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So what if I was immune to poison? There was only one person who could use it anyway, and he broke out into hives after touching a shovel on the opposite map on the second night like a chump, so it wouldn’t have made a difference.
I also got a splitting headache whenever I was sober, but I could just go drink first thing every night! I gave that beach minibar enough prosperity for the next century!
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I suppose I was also difficult to knock out, but what is being out cold for a few minutes or hours compared to forever? I will say, it worked wonders for my murdering of that religious nut!
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And don’t bring up the fact that being “knocked out” at the scene of the crime killed my chances of getting away with it, unless you want to take a permanent vacation in my humble abode.
The UAN is pretty much a vanilla player except for a keycard that could be used for a variety of things, such as traveling between maps. You could also win the game early this way, but figuring out how to do so would probably require a large amount of teamwork, something that’s hard to pull off when revealing your card is a Forbidden Action. It does have its uses, but Archer’s “power” move of tripping the FA on Day 1 is enough to put this in the gutter tiers.
D Tier
The Ultimate ???? has a Flashback Light that will reveal the motive of one random player per night, and you will gain one of their special traits upon killing them. You also have a higher chance of killing someone you have a motive for. Basically the worst of the copycat series of roles. You have to be a murder connoisseur to have more than one or two special traits, and the Forbidden Action restricts you from roleclaiming or saying why you can’t give it.
The Ultimate Chicken comes with a chicken suit that can’t be properly imitated. While you’re in this suit, you can also give off an extremely loud CLUCK. I know that this role was probably requested to go along with the player’s (cursed) roleplay, but I’m still judging it fairly, damn it. If no one can recognize you in your suit, I might bump this up to C Tier, but it’s still ultimately useless.
S Tier
Ultimate Stand User (Adam Sandler, Angie Yonaga):
A role after my own heart. The USU can give the host a song title, and from this he will generate a Stand with a random power. In Sandler’s case, his Stand, 『Mother Russia』, could spin in a tornado-like manner, causing physical damage and deflecting everything thrown at it. You can also summon your Stand to manipulate a far away object, but it’s limited to the room you’re currently in. True, the power you get is very much luck-based, but I doubt the generator has that many detrimental abilities. But….who am I kidding, I’m biased: having a Stand is fucking fantastic. I don’t even mind the FA where you have to pose and shout your Stand name every night!
Ultimate Plague Knight (Caulder):
Whew, this is a crazy one. The UPK possesses bombs that, despite not killing easy, can instantly KO someone and can also be used for a bomb jump to get to a higher ground. Your knowledge of everything chemical lets you craft any chemical compound you can think of, like explosives, poisons, acids, etc, or you can use this power to upgrade your bombs. This has an insane number of applications, and even better, the FA of touching a shovel is too situational to worry about. what do you mean agastya died from this on night 2
Ultimate Detective (Salem):
The Ultimate Detective, thankfully not as overpowered as previous versions, can compare bodily fluid samples, although he needs a sample first. You can also have the host incriminate another player once per night, but you can’t choose what the false evidence is. It is a nice change of pace to have a detective role that’s convenient for both investigating and attempting, even if the investigation is somewhat situational. The FA is voting for the wrong player three times, but I feel this can be easily negated by simply not voting most nights, except perhaps on a close tie or a night with few players.
Ultimate Interrogator (“You”):
The Ultimate Interrogator can choose one account every investigation and the host will verify its legitimacy. You can also do this to your own account to exonerate yourself. One of the most overpowered roles in the game, considering it can either instantly pin a player that’s already the target of suspicion or make yourself exempt from being a target yourself. The FA, being unable to kill outdoors, isn’t even a problem: just kill indoors.
Ramona Flowers (Ramona Flowers):
Ramona Flowers can, once per night, enter a Subspace Highway to travel from one doorway to another, resulting in the best travel role in the game besides the fact that you can’t enter or exit or enter a bedroom and have to travel through the dreams of at least one sleeping player, who might not even notice you anyway. You also carry roller skates for moving around faster and a Subspace Bag, which can hold more items than it can seemingly fit. However, you glow and make your position known whenever you take something out of it, and its trick is revealed if it’s examined. Galaxy brain loophole: just craft a normal bag that looks exactly like it, put it in the magical one, and swap the two interchangeably.
Ultimate Lawyer (The Other Monokuma):
fucking hell there’s too many amazing roles in this game
The Ultimate Lawyer can copypaste an account with no repercussions one time only, and the host will verify this as true. You can also present your attorney’s badge to a player, forcing them to reveal a night action from a previous night they’ve hidden. Finally, you can move one vote against you to another player during a class trial, albeit this came after an incentive. This is insanely helpful for both investigating and getting away with murder, and the Forbidden Action, being required to know where your badge is before the night ends, isn’t even that threatening.
Ultimate Collaborator (London Tipton):
The Ultimate Collaborator knows of the Mastermind’s existence and can ask for their assistance by setting certain things into action, which has a rich variety of applications. Although there’s a chance they might refuse, this decreases if you kill more and more. Also, if an innocent player is lynched for a kill you submitted, they’re listed as guilty regardless. I don’t even need to describe how ridiculous this is.
A Tier]
Ultimate Cyborg Ninja (Turb):
The UCN comes with a high-frequency katana, which is useful considering he finds it impossible to turn down a fight. Over the course of the game, you become stronger in combat and less likely to be murdered. It even lists the fact that a song from the Metal Gear Rising OST blares out whenever you fight as a downside, can you believe that?
Ultimate Inventor (Shoey):
The Ultimate Inventor can build any machine he can put to mind as long as he has the parts, which the host points him towards. It’s another role that thrives on your creativity, but it’s not S Tier due to the FA, where you must have a piece of women's underwear exposed at all times. Come on, that’s just humiliating.
Ultimate Meteorologist (Yohane Tsushima):
The Ultimate Meteorologist can alter the weather to whatever she wants at the beginning of each night, allowing for all kinds of hijinks. Using rain to obscure evidence, using wind to hinder and possibly even kill other players, etc. But I’m not putting it in S Tier as, to my knowledge, Yohane never used it even once. Bloody shame.
Ultimate Librarian (Kokichi Ouma):
The Ultimate Librarian can read a book related to a certain skill once per night and grow stronger in that skill. Think the Ultimate Carrot-on-a-Stick, except you don’t have to attempt to gain buffs, even if they’re restricted to only what you can realistically learn. Just see for yourself how high the roles primarily based on one’s imagination place on these lists. You can also decipher any code or language, but it’s more for lore stuff than actually being practical.
Ultimate Amputee (Blanc):
The Ultimate Amputee has an extremely sharp sword arm hiding under a prosthetic, but a wound made with this has a distinct pattern compared to most other knives. It is useful to have a murder weapon you don’t have to procure and hide somewhere, but I feel like body checks are this role’s worst nightmare. Not to mention the prosthetic arm lacks dexterity, making you less adapt than most other players.
Ultimate Spy (Mario):
The Ultimate Spy carries a watch that lets him turn invisible, as long as he is standing still, and also starts with an easy to conceal butterfly knife. I think there was some past role that let you be undetectable and walk at the same time, but whatever, it’s still a great ability to have. You can also disguise as another player once per night, but it’s only good for stealth purposes considering it goes away if you attack someone.
Ultimate Rock Climber (Barack Obama):
The URC can use his natural talent to climb the outside of the building to the roof or, more importantly, any window on the map, allowing for easy stealth or quick travel. The Forbidden Action is using your backpack for anything but the climbing gear you’re given, but I would probably just use a different bag before being shut down by the host.
Ultimate Saiyan (Goku Black):
The Ultimate Saiyan can knock out or even kill people with nothing but his sheer strength, giving you access to normally illegal melee kills that don’t involve going to several rooms and a convoluted setup. You can also become stronger by losing to a stronger opponent or getting away with murder, which you’re going to need with the FA of going three nights without attempting.
Ultimate Skeptic (Battler Ushiromiya):
The Ultimate Skeptic has the power of role abilities outright failing against him, offensive or defensive. Although this is almost game breaking on its own, you won’t notice when a role is in effect, which could lead to headaches with something like the Ultimate Illusionist or Ultimate Detective. Your mileage may vary on this role much more than others. As an FA, you can’t KO another player, which admittedly does kind of suck.
Ultimate Grandmother (Granny Betsy):
The Ultimate Grandmother is immune to attempts whenever she’s baking. Like the Ultimate Napper below, it’s more limited than other kill immunity roles before it, but unlike the Ultimate Napper, at least you don’t waste a night while it’s activated. You can also distract others with your baked goods, similar to JonTron’s role from 4.5. As a downside, you can’t poison anything you bake, and you’re rather slow and weak.
B Tier
Ultimate Athlete (Raptor):
The Ultimate Athlete can throw or catch any spherical object perfectly, which….isn’t really useful at all, damn. At least you start with a baseball bat and above-average speed and strength. The FA requires you to vigorously jerk off every nigh-FOR FUCK’S SAKE I THOUGHT I WAS DONE WITH THIS SHIT AFTER KG3
Ultimate Illusionist (Producer):
The Ultimate Illusionist can change the appearance of any object, so long as it shares a physical resemblance. This does have its uses, like with hiding blood on your clothes or something, but it’s limited by the fact that it only works with something in your hands, on your body, or very close to you. You also can’t use it on something you’ve killed with without dying.
Ultimate Miner (Viridi):
The Ultimate Miner can use her pickaxe and shovel to dig tunnels to other rooms or a drop-down hole to a lower floor. Like another traveling role, the Ultimate Rock Climber, but infinitely more obvious, but at least it’s not relegated to only rooms with windows. You’re also easily distracted by gold objects, which is too situational to matter, and at least the FA of not going to bed while dirty is easy to prevent.
Ultimate Beachcomber (Drei):
The Ultimate Beachcomber can use his metal detector to locate one metal object of his choosing per night. However, you still have to dig it up, and the metal detector can’t be used as a weapon. It’s a tossup between this and A Tier, because while this grants you access to a wide variety of items, the complicated process required for getting them makes it fairly obvious a metal object involved in a murder is you.
Ultimate Napper (Diantha):
This role’s best described as a Frankenstein of past role traits but significantly nerfed. The Ultimate Napper can use sleeping pills on herself to make them immune to murder, just like the Ultimate Iron Flesh. or the Werewolf, but you can’t do anything for the rest of the night in that state. By giving someone else a pill, you can knock them out and make them vulnerable, similar to the Ultimate Darth Maul or the Ultimate Gorgon, but you only have three pills to start with and have to wait two nights for an extra if you run out. It’s also limited by the fact that you can’t trip others’ FAs with this.
Ultimate Wanderer (Boo Boo the Wise):
The Ultimate Wanderer can start and end his night in any room in any room of his choosing. Not much practicality, if I have to be honest, it’s only good for getting to a particular room or ending your night faster. You can also hear anything going on in a room you’re asleep in, but your FA has you die when you’re asleep in a room with a corpse, so...what’s the point?
C Tier
Ultimate Editor (Maitre D’eath):
The Ultimate Editor can insert an action into someone’s account every night, and their account will tell them they did it, even though it didn’t really happen. It’s one thing if the action actually does takes place, but it’s simple for the player to reason “What the hell, I didn’t submit this” and blow it off.
Ultimate Alcoholic (Hades):
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Ah, I remember my role fondly. If only for giving me an excuse to drown myself in booze, wine refineries are shockingly scarce in the Underworld. All the dead souls are too busy being whipped with blazing barbed wire to ferment grapes, unfortunately.
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So what if I was immune to poison? There was only one person who could use it anyway, and he broke out into hives after touching a shovel on the opposite map on the second night like a chump, so it wouldn’t have made a difference.
I also got a splitting headache whenever I was sober, but I could just go drink first thing every night! I gave that beach minibar enough prosperity for the next century!
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I suppose I was also difficult to knock out, but what is being out cold for a few minutes or hours compared to forever? I will say, it worked wonders for my murdering of that religious nut!
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And don’t bring up the fact that being “knocked out” at the scene of the crime killed my chances of getting away with it, unless you want to take a permanent vacation in my humble abode.
Ultimate Absolutely Nothing (Archer EST):
The UAN is pretty much a vanilla player except for a keycard that could be used for a variety of things, such as traveling between maps. You could also win the game early this way, but figuring out how to do so would probably require a large amount of teamwork, something that’s hard to pull off when revealing your card is a Forbidden Action. It does have its uses, but Archer’s “power” move of tripping the FA on Day 1 is enough to put this in the gutter tiers.
D Tier
Ultimate ???? (Pea):
The Ultimate ???? has a Flashback Light that will reveal the motive of one random player per night, and you will gain one of their special traits upon killing them. You also have a higher chance of killing someone you have a motive for. Basically the worst of the copycat series of roles. You have to be a murder connoisseur to have more than one or two special traits, and the Forbidden Action restricts you from roleclaiming or saying why you can’t give it.
Ultimate Chicken (Feminist Komaeda):
The Ultimate Chicken comes with a chicken suit that can’t be properly imitated. While you’re in this suit, you can also give off an extremely loud CLUCK. I know that this role was probably requested to go along with the player’s (cursed) roleplay, but I’m still judging it fairly, damn it. If no one can recognize you in your suit, I might bump this up to C Tier, but it’s still ultimately useless.